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State law forces reluctant landowners into drilling leases

February 9, 2014

LISBON — Several Columbiana County property owners unwilling to lease their land for horizontal drilling were recently forced to do so under a nearly 50-year-old state law, and at least two other......

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Cruiser

Feb-09-14 2:23 AM

This is what happens to stubborn people. Glad they just missed out on some free money.

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JimboBrowntown

Feb-09-14 2:57 AM

Same thing may happen to the holdouts in East Palestine.

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busmom

Feb-09-14 3:34 AM

THIS is exactly why we should NOT allow this! Money, money, money....wake up people.

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TheBoxer

Feb-09-14 8:34 AM

EP residents take note: This is exactly what your no-nothing village council is trying to hurry up and force on you, before anyone has the time to check. And note: It's 65% of the PROPERTY, not 65% of the people that's required for this, so conceivably only 10 or 12 large property owners could force this on an entire town. If you really want a fright check out the law on urbanized unitization. It allows drilling INSIDE city limits, and there is nothing a town can do to stop it once you are part of a unitization plan. State laws take control of your town as far as drilling is concerned and not council or anyone else can stop it. It takes a big piece of property but the law allows several property owners to combine their land into lots big enough to allow a drill pad anywhere in a town you can put together a patch of ground big enough. Do your homework because it's clear your elected officials aren't doing theirs. Either that or they're just out for the $$ themselves and don't care.

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STofit

Feb-09-14 8:54 AM

I am not against drilling for natural gas or oil, I have a lease, but this is yet another case of infringement on personal property rights. What is wrong with our politicians that they allow this to happen. Is it yet another case of "my brother in law is in the gas business" Give us back our rights.

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busmom

Feb-09-14 9:17 AM

Boxer: You hit the nail on the head. Now to get EP residents to take heed, be wary of their elected officials, make them answer and be accountable for the things they do/don't do. Every person living in this town should be doing their homework on this issue, and not relying on our council to do the right thing. Clearly council is in it for the money, period.

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sheepgal

Feb-09-14 9:18 AM

The Huffman South unit was just approved (1/29/2014), with only one remaining property owner being forced pooled. The interesting thing about it and the most frustrating is that three of the property owners submitted in writing and in person objections to the unitization, based on the facts that CHK was not negotiating in good faith and that well over half of the unit is actively engaged in litigation against CHK. The process is heavily weighted against any landowner taking the time and effort and money to object. ODNR appears to be sitting there to back up the oil companies not to protect and ututilize Ohio's natural resources properly.

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TheBoxer

Feb-09-14 9:31 AM

I'm not against drilling either. I just think it should be each individual's choice, not something forced on an entire town by just a few big landowners, by the state, or by a village council that has no clue what they're doing. This is the United States after all. What's democratic about a few big landowners being able to force something like this on an entire village? It seems pretty clear our council has sold out and has no desire to protect the interests of us average citizens, that they'll just throw us to the dogs if it suits them. By the way, there is a council meeting tomorrow night at 7:00. I'm just sayin'....

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TheBoxer

Feb-09-14 10:18 AM

Check the village council minutes, they're online. In August 2012 the village had a good gas lease offered to it, but Figley shouted everyone down, got his way, and forced his own gas-man on everyone hurry-hurry before they had a chance to think about it. He said his guy could get the village at least $6500 an acre right away but council had to act fast, RIGHT NOW!! So they leaped without looking, believed Figley, turned down a good lease offer, and Figley's guy did a complete disappearing act, never heard from again. The village lost hundreds of thousands of dollars because of Figley and because council listened to him and acted without taking the time to do their homework. Does that sound familiar? Deja vu all over again. Do these council folk never learn anything from experience? Check the minutes to jog your memories folks, it's there in black & white. Please don't do this to us again. Slow down. Study the facts. Only stupid people make the same mistake twice.

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BigBossN1663r

Feb-09-14 11:11 AM

It shouldn't come down to forced unitization. Everyone should be for this! It's a win-win situation.

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Cruiser

Feb-09-14 11:22 AM

Good luck changing the state law everyone....

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BigBossN1663r

Feb-09-14 11:31 AM

"The minutes" are irrelevent. Quit living in the past people!

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HadEnough

Feb-09-14 11:31 AM

Holding a state law over citizens rights. Someone needs to resign.

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JimboBrowntown

Feb-09-14 11:32 AM

The residents of East Palestine can disagree with this all they want and I encourage them to attend council meetings and disagree till they're blue in the face. However, the law is the law. It's true we missed out on a lease in the past. Let's not make the same mistake.

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BigBossN1663r

Feb-09-14 11:37 AM

Yes Jimbo! Yes! I couldn't have said it better myself

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TheBoxer

Feb-09-14 11:52 AM

My point was, when you rush into things without first checking the facts and doing your homework, mistakes get made. There is no reason to hurry here. If there is gas worth anything under EP it isn't going anywhere. And neither are the gas companies.

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busmom

Feb-09-14 12:00 PM

BigBoss=big idiot....minutes don't matter? What planet are you seriously living on? Those are elected officials screwing the people of the town. People better take notice and read what the heck this council is really up to. Living in the past dumbobrown? That's called life lessons...learn from past mistakes. The council for years has squandered the electric fund, what makes you think once they sell out the townfolk, that they won't get their greedy little paws on the money...and yep, squander the money they stole from it's residents! AGAIN!! Wake up, quit living for money.

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Cruiser

Feb-09-14 12:38 PM

We need to put our faith in our elected officials. The electric fund was spent well before the current counsel members were serving our great community. Also money is a necessity to survive. people that say the town is greedy for wanting to do this must not work for money?

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BigBossN1663r

Feb-09-14 12:47 PM

Money is life!

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HadEnough

Feb-09-14 12:51 PM

I see now what everyone has been saying, you are dumb. Our town has not grown in 20 some years. No growth and no business for jobs. Our officials have personal agendas. This seems to be one with the gas leasing.

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TheBoxer

Feb-09-14 1:05 PM

These comments are a microcosm of history. Over the centuries bullies have always tried to get their way by forcing thoughtful, rational people to act against their will, without first taking the time to more closely examine the important matters at hand. Any time someone suggests giving further thought to an important decision, to studying a course of action before committing to it, keep a close eye on those people who say "No no, we have to do this right now, my way, hurry up." Always ask what it is they don't want you to find out. These irrational beings are the very ones you should be suspicious of. Over time, these unthinking, mindless bullies are the ones that end up doing the most damage in any community.

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busmom

Feb-09-14 1:26 PM

HadEnough:Exactly. The council members have drug their feet for years...by not going after and bring in real business, all around us as prospered, but not EP. And now they want the lazy man's way to a quick buck. They are going to sell our the town's residents...instead of getting off their butts and going after real honest businesses. As said many times...They want and got their "bedroom community".

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JimboBrowntown

Feb-09-14 1:30 PM

When you people are collecting your royalty checks every month I'm going to remember these posts. You all are going to feel pretty stupid.

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TheBoxer

Feb-09-14 1:33 PM

Hey, I'm with Cruiser and Jimbo. What's wrong with the rest of you? Millions of dollars in the bank for EP and our residents! I say if there is a drilling rig on every street corner, that's great! In fact, here's an idea. Why not one on the infield at the park? They're losing tons of money over there anyhow. You may think I'm joking, but I'm serious. Drill baby drill! You're crazy if you want to turn your backs on millions. Where do I sign?

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TheBoxer

Feb-09-14 1:44 PM

Hey, if you can't convince them with reason and common sense, maybe irony and sarcasm will work.

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